Forum Activity for @Brian S. Ruggles

Brian S. Ruggles
@Brian S. Ruggles
09/11/10 21:45:07
7 posts

Information on Madagascar


Posted in: News & New Product Press (Read-Only)

I am still a Chocolate Life greenhorn, but I would love some input from the contributors on here.

I recently formed a Chocolate Society in Utah with some fellow chocophiles, and we meet monthly to focus on various aspects of the wonderful brown stuff. We have looked at Venezuelan chocolates, Amedei's blends, etc. Our next meeting - just this Monday evening - will spotlight Madagascar chocolates.

I love the fruitiness of Madagascar's beans. I love the difference between Amano's Madagascar and Pralus's. I am excited to try and overload on one of the most potent beans out there. I think this will be an interesting look to see the stylistic differences between the great producers out there in addition to an exciting way to discover the unique characteristics of the Madagascar beans that exist independent of the producers' methodology. We will be sampling chocolate from Amano, Patric, Valrhona, Pralus, Amedei, Domori, and some others I can't remember now.

I am hoping to get information about Madagascar's beans in relation to these brands' bars. I understand that Amano, Amedei, Domori, and Patric get their beans from the Akesson family plantation in the Sambirano Valley in the northern part of the island, and that Pralus and Valrhona use beans blended from Akesson and some other locale(s).

Are the beans Trinitario or Criollo? It seems there is some debate there, and I tend to think the beans fall somewhere on the Criollo side of in-between - whatever that would even mean. Does anyone know where the distinctive brightness comes from, or the fruit-skin-style bitterness? Is that the varietal or the climate or soil or some other factor coming through?

If you have any info to offer, I would greatly appreciate it. And keep up the great work.

Brian

updated by @Brian S. Ruggles: 12/13/24 12:16:07
Kane Dijkman
@Kane Dijkman
12/19/12 11:22:59
5 posts

Creating Detailed Moulds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Any idea then how the folks Graeme links to can do this so cheaply?

Brad Churchill
@Brad Churchill
12/19/12 00:04:01
527 posts

Creating Detailed Moulds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

The only way I know of to get the detail you are looking for is to create your molds via injection-molded polycarbonate. I have never once seen a vacu-formed mold have the detail that a polycarbonate mold can produce.

Graeme Bulluss
@Graeme Bulluss
12/18/12 16:45:21
3 posts

Creating Detailed Moulds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi Kane,

Alas not. It's still a mystery. At the moment we are persisting with vacuum forming. We've tried a food grade silicone mix which works well but is impractical for volume usage.

The search continues.....

Kane Dijkman
@Kane Dijkman
12/18/12 16:40:51
5 posts

Creating Detailed Moulds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Graeme, did you ever figure out what they are doing? Care to share if you have?

Graeme Bulluss
@Graeme Bulluss
09/11/10 17:44:56
3 posts

Creating Detailed Moulds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi Nat,Thanks for the reply. We had previously thought this may help but no idea how to implement it on our current machinery, and having spoken to a couple of plastics people here in AUS they feel that vacuum forming of any description is not going to give us the fine detail that these companies are achieving. There has to be something else. Thanks for the hint anyway.
Nat
@Nat
09/11/10 04:23:13
75 posts

Creating Detailed Moulds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I was just talking to an ag engineer today and he said that it helps to put high pressure on the the non-vacuum side of the mold to get better detail, e.g. with pressurized gas or a liquid. I don't know how this would work practically to keep liquid or high pressure gas on the plastic sheet for vacuum forming, but at least it's a lead.
Graeme Bulluss
@Graeme Bulluss
09/10/10 05:26:38
3 posts

Creating Detailed Moulds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

We are a small specialist chocolate maker in Melbourne Australia. We specialise in custom moulded chocolates featuring company logos and other designs. To date we have created our moulds by engraving metal plates (similar to printing plates) and vacuum forming plastic over them. Whilst this method works reasonably well it is impossible to get the detail that some companies that also do this work (mainly in the US) achieve. They are clearly not using vacuum forming for their mould creation, however they are still able to produce moulds very economically as evidenced by the fact that they only charge US$100 for setup. I have attached a file of an image of one of the chocolates produced from the moulds they are using. I have experimented with silicone moulds, but struggle to get the gloss in the chocolate using these moulds, and the silicones I have used are quite expensive and time consuming to set. Naturally none of the companies I have approached will tell me how they achieve such great detail with an economically produced mould despite the fact that we are in AUS and they are in US. Does anyone have any ideas how these companies are able to create such great detail in a custom manufactured mould at an econimical price? Any ideas really appreciated. More examples of this type of work can be seen at example sites like www.chocolate2.com
updated by @Graeme Bulluss: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Andre Costa
@Andre Costa
09/09/10 19:56:22
103 posts

Schlepping Chocolate to Markets & Events


Posted in: Opinion

I am going to start selling at markets and special events here in New York City, and one of the things I am having trouble deciding is how to transport the chocolates and table fixtures to the event.
So, for the ones who work (or worked) on farmer's markets, flea markets, tabletop shows, etc, how do you (or did you) transport your chocolates and accessories?

I do not have a car and will rely on public transportation and cabs! Sigh...

Thanks you all!

Andre Costa
DaCosta Chocolates

updated by @Andre Costa: 04/10/15 13:43:14
Chrissie Bettencourt
@Chrissie Bettencourt
09/14/10 18:12:04
4 posts

Cacao in Colombia


Posted in: Opinion

Thanks Nat! That is great, I will send those along.Saludos,Chrissie
Nat
@Nat
09/13/10 17:10:51
75 posts

Cacao in Colombia


Posted in: Opinion

You might try to contact these people too: http://www.luker.com.co/ and Santander from Colombia as well is one of my favorite daily chocolate bars: http://www.chocolatesantander.com/english/index.html would be worth looking up.
Chrissie Bettencourt
@Chrissie Bettencourt
09/13/10 14:21:34
4 posts

Cacao in Colombia


Posted in: Opinion

That is great! Thanks Giovanni, I will forward those to my friend and ask him to look for them.Saludos,Chrissie
giovanni
@giovanni
09/11/10 05:00:21
9 posts

Cacao in Colombia


Posted in: Opinion

I've been in Columbia last july to www.chocoandino.com Contact www.fedecao.com And also Jos Amilcar Delgado amidelcacao@hotmail.com He don't agree to fedecacao and her beans are very good: http://www.thechocolatelife.com/photo/chocoandino-8?context=latest
Chrissie Bettencourt
@Chrissie Bettencourt
09/08/10 11:05:39
4 posts

Cacao in Colombia


Posted in: Opinion

Hello! I was wondering if anyone has any contacts of cacao growers in Columbia or know of groups making some good chocolate there? (I am afraid my knowledge of Colombian cacao is less than desirable which I will have to rectify) I have a student of mine who sill be going back for a visit and is an agronomist who would like to visit some plantations and see what is happening on the cacao front in his home country. As well as try some Colombian cacao.

I thought I would check on this forum to see if anyone has any recommendations?

updated by @Chrissie Bettencourt: 04/22/15 19:06:02
Kerry
@Kerry
09/07/10 17:35:51
288 posts

Playing with Nib to Bar Milk Chocolate


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I've been playing with a small melanger and made a batch of milk chocolate that so far is the best I've made from scratch. The recipe still needs work - but I'm seeing great potential for this.

I'm linking to the topic I posted on eGullet rather than repost everything here.


updated by @Kerry: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Dirke Botsford
@Dirke Botsford
09/08/10 10:25:55
98 posts

Leaky cordials and caramels


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

These are all enrobed by hand, I'm thinking it just didn't seal properly since the problem areas are around the cherry stem and some, now that I've looked are poorly enrobed center because I was in a hurry. Gotta learn how to be more patient I guess. One of these days I will get it....?Cheers
Jeff
@Jeff
09/08/10 10:07:04
94 posts

Leaky cordials and caramels


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

its a pain in the ass but we look at every cavity and use a small artists palette knife to remove any potential problem areas. with 32 cavities x 25 molds a run its a mind numbingly tedious process but our reject rate is very low now. patience is key. meticulous anal retentive exactitude a must.
Dirke Botsford
@Dirke Botsford
09/08/10 09:49:30
98 posts

Leaky cordials and caramels


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Thanks Jeff, I guess I need to have a little more patience and ensure a good coating. THX
Jeff
@Jeff
09/08/10 09:07:44
94 posts

Leaky cordials and caramels


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

dirke,we make thousands of very liquid cordials and caramels every week. A very small percentage always leak. It is, most likely, a seal problem. we take great care to make sure no filling rides up the sides creating a place where the filling can ooze out. this is, most likely, where your problem is.
Dirke Botsford
@Dirke Botsford
09/07/10 11:27:53
98 posts

Leaky cordials and caramels


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Just made my first batch of cherry cordials along with some salted caramels, they look great and everything but their gooey goodness is oozing out? Why? is it just not completely sealed? this has never happened on the caramels before.......?any suggestions

updated by @Dirke Botsford: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Susan Van Horn
@Susan Van Horn
09/24/10 10:20:38
32 posts

blending couverture


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Sorry for the delay in answering. Your info is much appreciated. I'm making a batch this weekend so, we shall see!
Mann Made Chocolate
@Mann Made Chocolate
09/12/10 12:14:17
7 posts

blending couverture


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Re: blending dark with milk - I'm not an expert, but I have done this successfully using "couverture" quality milk and dark. I don't know if this is right, but its worked for me: melt both first to the manufacturer's recommendations, although I admit I often cheat and just target 115-118 F. I then pick a ratio (wild guess), say 80% milk and 20% dark (depending, of course, on the dark I'm using). I pour the dark into the milk, and fold it in. I don't know if the folding is necessary (as opposed to just quickly mixing), but folding just feels better to me. Then I temper the mixture using the temperature profile of the milk chocolate. After it is fully tempered and set a while (I like to wait a day if I can), I then taste it. I don't really find a lot of value in tasting the melted, pre-tempered chocolate, because to my palate, it doesn't predict the final taste. I try to do several experiments at once: 80/20, 75/24, 67/33, 50/50. That way, I know on day 2 which will work and which won't. Interestingly, I've found that while the end product will temper fine...I have been disappointed with the flavor often. Instead of adding depth and complexity (as I had hoped), the dark adds a "muddiness." But that may be the brands I'm using. I'm still playing with it, looking for the right blend that will make a somewhat darker, somewhat less sweet "dark milk chocolate."
Susan Van Horn
@Susan Van Horn
09/10/10 14:03:20
32 posts

blending couverture


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Along the same line as blending like couvertures, what about blending dark with milk?
peter guppy
@peter guppy
09/10/10 07:29:31
3 posts

blending couverture


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

cheers for the comments much appreciated.had ago and seems to of worked fine, now going to try out the new blend on some punters.
Mark Heim
@Mark Heim
09/09/10 19:04:06
101 posts

blending couverture


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Easy would be to just mix the blend to taste, then temper the blend. The temperature to temper to will depend on the amount of milk fat. So a blend of dark and milk will temper between either, same dark/white, or milk/white. You have to deal with the same thing with different milk chocolates tempering at different temperatures.
Sebastian
@Sebastian
09/09/10 06:03:30
754 posts

blending couverture


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Yup, you're on the right track. It's not rocket science, so don't over complicate it by seeding with both types of what you're blending. I'd personally choose the chocolate that has the least milk fat (most cocoa butter) in it to seed with, but both will work. Do it on a small scale (100g) first and taste it to see if it's giving you the flavor profile you want.
peter guppy
@peter guppy
09/06/10 15:48:31
3 posts

blending couverture


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi all


I want to start blending different couvertures to create my own unique flavours and have a couple of questions relating to technique and flavours.


Technique

I work with a 15k table top tempering machine and was wondering if blending was as simple as putting the right present of each couverture in the machine to melt the bulk & then seedingwith the correct percentage of each couverture?


Flavours

I only intend to blend dark/dark, milk/milk & white/white.


As a novice I haveno idea how the various couvertures mixed will work together and would appreciate any views, opinions & experience on this matter.


If anyone could guide me in the direction of any reference material on this subject it would be much appreciated.


Apologise if this has previously being covered in the forum. Ive had a search but not find anything. Let me know if you need more details from me.


Thanks in advance.

Peter


updated by @peter guppy: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Pierrick marie Chouard
@Pierrick marie Chouard
09/28/10 10:34:00
5 posts

The WORST "Article" About Chocolate - EVER


Posted in: Opinion

Good Comment Clay. Thank you for setting the record straight.Pierrick ChouardVintage Plantations Chocolates.
Mann Made Chocolate
@Mann Made Chocolate
09/12/10 11:35:11
7 posts

The WORST "Article" About Chocolate - EVER


Posted in: Opinion

Clay, this is such a thoughtful, articulate response -- bravo! Thank you for keeping the record straight.
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
09/11/10 18:55:50
1,692 posts

The WORST "Article" About Chocolate - EVER


Posted in: Opinion

I tried to write a response over on the Natural News site, but the software won't allow me write a post longer than a certain length. I posted the intro on Natural News with a link back to this comment.

Following is my entire response:
===================================================================

Over on my web site, TheChocolateLife.com, I called the original version of this article The Worst Article on Chocolate Ever Written. I suppose, in response to a private message I sent to Mr Adams, he felt compelled to make some changes that took hours of additional research and discussions with cacao experts. I would like to know which "experts" Mr Adams spoke with - and if any of them were NOT identified with the raw foods community. He certainly did not consult me, or acknowledge my message to him.

My bona fides. I have been researching cacao and chocolate since 1994 and I've been writing about chocolate professionally since 2001. My critically acclaimed book, Discover Chocolate, was published in 2007. I have been to Ecuador twice (and also visited cacao plantations Bolivia, Venezuela, Mexico, and Belize among other places). I am a friend of Santiago, the founder of Pacari, and have many friends and acquaintances in the raw chocolate world. None of what follows is to in any way be perceived as casting any aspersions on the quality of the products Pacari produces. Santiago is a very nice guy and I believe he is highly ethical and to be believed in his claims for his products.

That said, the updated version of the article is no better and in some ways worse than the original

The following quote is breathtakingly wrong: "... virtually all the chocolate used in candy bars, chocolate chips, chocolate cakes, breads and so on is derived from a new, genetically divergent plant called CCN-51 -- a pale shadow of the original cacao tree it was supposed to replace." The world annual harvest of cacao beans is roughly 3 million metric tonnes. Ecuador's contribution to that harvest is approximately 3-5% and only a portion of that is CCN-51, which is not grown widely in many other countries. So there is simply no way that "virtually all of the chocolate used ... is from a new, genetically divergent plant called CCN-51."

What is "genetically divergent" supposed to mean? Genetically modified? In fact CCN-51 was created through conventional cross breeding techniques and was not genetically engineered in a lab. Like many cross-breeding programs in cacao, the purpose of this program was to create a variety with improved yield and disease resistance, with no attempt to select for flavor characteristics. There is no laboratory evidence (that I am aware of) that suggests, let alone proves, that CCN-51 is nutritionally inferior to Nacional in any way - assuming that the two varieties were grown and processed the same way. One might taste better, but better taste does not infer better nutrition.

Nacional is the preferred name for the variety among professionals. Arriba is a colloquial term that means "upriver" because cacao traders needed to go upriver (the Guayas) from the port of Guayaquil to get the beans. In more than 15 years, I have never heard the beans referred to as "Arriba Nacional complex by trinitari." The name Arriba came to be associated over time with the flavor of Nacional, which Mr Adams refers to as lychee but has been historically more commonly described as a combination of orange blossom and jasmine.

Another claim: "Once you eat the fruit, you're left with cacao seed pods." Actually, you don't eat the fruit. If you are lucky enough to open a fresh cacao pod, you get the great pleasure of being able to eat the pulp that surrounds the seeds. You do need to leave some of the pulp behind, because it is the fermentation of the pulp that is responsible for developing flavor compounds in the seeds. Once the seeds have been fermented they are dried and it is the dried cacao seeds (now called cocoa beans) that are turned into chocolate.

The seed pods are not, as Mr Adams writes, "dried and fermented." Only the seeds (the pods are normally composted in the cacao orchard), and it is necessary to ferment before drying. It is physically impossible to ferment a dried cacao seed.

In a conventional chocolate, the cocoa beans are roasted to develop flavor and to make it easier to remove the shell. Obviously, the beans used to make raw chocolate are not roasted. The "meat" of a cocoa bean (roasted or unroasted) is called nib. Nib is ground into a thick paste (most commonly called cocoa liquor (which is not alcoholic). Cocoa liquor can either be pressed to separate the fat (cocoa butter) from the non-fat solids. If the separation is done in a hydraulic press (the most common method), the non-fat solids form a compressed cake (called press cake) that is kibbled (broken into bits) and then ground into cocoa powder, contrary to Mr Adams assertion that, "The resulting fine powder is a cacao 'cake.'"

It is also important to note that the name, theobroma cacao, is Latin. It was given to cacao by Europeans. There is no evidence - anywhere in South America - that cacao seeds were ever consumed until after cacao was domesticated by the Olmecs and Toltecs in Central America. In Ecuador specifically there is no cultural iconography of cacao. You will find corn and many other plants depicted in art and textiles, but not cacao. It is the Aztecs, thousands of miles away in what is now Mexico, who believed that cacao was a gift from the gods.

Finally, Mr Adams writes, "When you get some of this, consider it a treasure. I recommend not feeding it to anyone who isn't enlightened enough to appreciate what they are consuming. Most children, in particular, are expecting sweet "junk" chocolate and will likely not appreciate "Arriba" cacao."

In fact, virtually all raw chocolate, and unsweetened chocolate in any form, is an acquired taste. Unsweetened raw chocolate is doubly so, irrespective of the type of bean it's made from - they wouldn't appreciate chocolate made from raw Arriba cacao or raw Porcelana cacao, or any other varietal. One of the main reasons that children will not like unsweetened chocolate in any form (junk or no) is that they do not possess receptors on their tongues to process bitter flavors (most young children don't like anything bitter, not just chocolate), we grow into our ability to enjoy bitter flavors.
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
09/11/10 17:49:27
1,692 posts

The WORST "Article" About Chocolate - EVER


Posted in: Opinion

I made a screenshot of the updated article for all to see. Even heavily JPGd it's almost a meg.If the article continues to be updated, let me know and I'll track its progress.
Mann Made Chocolate
@Mann Made Chocolate
09/10/10 22:44:02
7 posts

The WORST "Article" About Chocolate - EVER


Posted in: Opinion

My feeling is that this "article" finds its voice in the parlance of the infomercial: First, find something that is popular. Then, find a way to use just a hint of truth to state that ALL forms of the thing (whatever it is) have been made vulgar, artificial, fake, and so on. It's especially good if you use hifalutin talk like: "a genetically divergent cacao plant that lacks the true phytochemical potency that gives real chocolate its many beneficial properties." (Really? Sure is a lot of research on theobromine, (-) epicatechin, effect on endothelial function, etc. on a product that lacks "phytochemical potency.") Next, with great PASSION for all that is GOOD, claim that what you are selling is ALL NATURAL and PURE and THE ONLY ONE OF ITS KIND! Finally, make sure that this wonderful and precious new version is VERY RARE and VERY HARD TO OBTAIN and painstaking to produce.This "article" seems little more than advertising that follows the typical pattern mastered by Ron Popeil, then brought to its current fear-mongering status by Kevin Trudeau: Set the problem as undisputed fact; establish that YOU THE CUSTOMER have this problem and "THEY" have DUPED you; reveal the SECRET solution that THEY don't want you to know about; and then offer it for sale, ideally in LIMITED AMOUNTS or FOR A LIMITED time.In related news, I just heard that to protest that there is NO MORE REAL CHOCOLATE, some preacher with 12 parishioners is going to burn a stack of Dagoba bars.PS: By the way, I am not in any way impugning the product itself. I'm just commenting on the method of using an "article" to sell a product.
Matt Caputo
@Matt Caputo
09/10/10 20:33:44
53 posts

The WORST "Article" About Chocolate - EVER


Posted in: Opinion

Looks like they changed the article.
Warren Laine-Naida
@Warren Laine-Naida
09/09/10 03:51:14
3 posts

The WORST "Article" About Chocolate - EVER


Posted in: Opinion

:o) I like this piece
Tom
@Tom
09/05/10 17:29:44
205 posts

The WORST "Article" About Chocolate - EVER


Posted in: Opinion

Wow, the intro is a doozy, I hate to imagine what it read like before the "extensive research and revision"!!
Walter Plante
@Walter Plante
09/05/10 10:37:46
9 posts

The WORST "Article" About Chocolate - EVER


Posted in: Opinion

Clay, I have to agree. A colleague had posted a link to this article on our FB page. After I had read it, I thought I might just go in and add a few comments to explain the inaccuracies - a teachable moment about cacao origin and bean variety, if you will. But, I quickly came to realize that making any reference to the aricle would only cause confusion - it was too far off the mark. We simple deleted the link to this article. To try to re-educate would have just caused more confusion.I'm sure there is no direct connection with Pacari since they are a high quality outfit making great chocolate while continuing their social mission.I've seen some real bad articles out there that basically state that "raw" chocolate is the ONLY form of chocolate that has any health benefits and that once you hit some magic temperature, ALL of the nutrients disappear. I will try to hunt this one down.
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
09/04/10 14:48:19
1,692 posts

The WORST "Article" About Chocolate - EVER


Posted in: Opinion

A lot gets written about chocolate every day.

Some of it is very good, a lot of it is pretty good, some of it is so-so, and every once in while you run across something that is so badly researched and written that it just takes your breath away. It's probably the Worst "Article" on Chocolate Ever Written .

It's hard to know where to start pointing out what's wrong with this article, written by Mike Adams, the self-proclaimed Health Ranger and editor of NaturalNews.com. He may be an expert on what makes news natural, but he is no authority on chocolate. And, actually, it's not really an article - it's a very long-winded sell sheet for Pacari chocolate.

Here's just one of the howlers the author tries to pass off on his readers, " virtually all the chocolate used in candy bars, chocolate chips, chocolate cakes, breads and so on is derived from the hybridized plant calledCCN-51-- a pale shadow of the heirloom "Arribe Nacional" cacao it was supposed to replace. " Huh? Ecuador is responsible for only a small percentage (3-5% depending on source cited) of the world harvest of cacao so how can virtually all of the chocolate used in virtually everything made with chocolate be derived of the demonized CCN-51?

It can't of course. But, Mr Adams is less concerned with facts than fear-mongering.Just for fun, have a look to see if you can spot where else Mike goes wrong (spoiler - the first inaccuracy is in the second sentence), and share your thoughts with the rest of us.

And, while you're at it ... if you have other nominations for really bad (as in inaccurate, and/or misleading) writing about chocolate - please share it with the rest of us and when there are enough responses I'll create a "Top 10 Worst ..."

[ Why would I want to do this? Almost every day someone asks me a question about chocolate where I wonder - where did they ever get the idea to ask that question? The answer is articles like the one cited above. By identifying the sources we can hope to bring the light of truth(ful research and writing) to bear. ]

:: Clay

PS. I've met Santiago of Pacari (whose chocolate is being promoted in this "article") and spoken with him at length - at the Salon du Chocolat last year, and at Fancy Food Shows and various events over the past several years. I don't think that much, if any, of what's in this article is actually attributable to Santiago.

updated by @Clay Gordon: 04/10/15 15:16:37
Steve Wilson2
@Steve Wilson2
02/01/13 12:19:31
3 posts

Unsweetened (or stevia sweetened) milk chocolate?


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Thanks for the info Richard, that gives me a couple of things to try including 100% chocolate if the craving hits me, I quite like stevia and coconut oil too so it sounds a great way to make low-carb chocolate. Much appreciated.

Steve Wilson2
@Steve Wilson2
01/11/13 11:11:38
3 posts

Unsweetened (or stevia sweetened) milk chocolate?


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Thanks Richard, yeah the link must be out of date here's a working one http://danteconfection.com/store/products/category/sugarfree/

What mix do you use for your own if you don't mind me asking and does it work out cost effective?

Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
01/10/13 21:13:18
1,692 posts

Unsweetened (or stevia sweetened) milk chocolate?


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

Richard:

I have a colleague (the buyer at a local chocolate store) who is going to ISM (international confectionery show) in a couple of weeks and I have asked him to see if he can locate it, try it, and see if it's worth bringing in. They already bring in product from Germany so they should be able to combine shipping.

In the meantime, it's available on Amazon.de and other on-line shopping outlets in the EU - the company, Tiroler Edle, is Austrian.

:: Clay

Steve Wilson2
@Steve Wilson2
08/28/11 08:52:50
3 posts

Unsweetened (or stevia sweetened) milk chocolate?


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

I know this is dark rather than milk but its the closest I could find to meet your requirements and no-one else has posted about it. 98%cocoa 2%stevia chocolate bar Let me know if you try it as I really want to get some, but postage to UK is too expensive

Steve

Kristina
@Kristina
11/01/10 05:18:12
21 posts

Unsweetened (or stevia sweetened) milk chocolate?


Posted in: Classifieds ARCHIVE

I don't think there is aniything except lactose in Tiroler Edle 70% purissima maxima (an Austrian company, in cooperation with domori).
They claim, there is 70% cacao and 30 % milk - cacao mass, whole milk powder and cacao butter.

I was very positively surprised by the taste - expresively chocolaty and with the caramel note, typical for good milk chocolates, and - this is most important thing - not too sweet.
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